[etchells-fleet11] Fw: RC "Volunteers" Issue

Don Maxwell dleemaxwell at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 16 17:48:36 CDT 2009


FW: From Bill Fox

 
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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Bill Fox at Fox Duffles <foxduffles at worldnet.att.net>
To: Don Maxwell <dleemaxwell at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:30:34 PM
Subject: Re: [etchells-fleet11] RC "Volunteers" Issue

 
Don: pls post for me, server rejected 
me.
 
thx, bill 
 
All: 
before anyone runs out and puts the onus for the 
NUST concept on Amanda, I have to say several things about this. I have been in 
contact w/ NUST several times in he past about making duffle bags for the team. 
They always drop the ball. No matter how much I nudge and suggest, the 
communication always breaks down. If the NUST idea goes awry and sounds like the 
wheels have already fallen off, why not try other folks in the area, We can try 
Rickover Naval Academy. They are at  Senn High School. Why not try Aarons 
alama-ITT, Then we have the local high school sailing teams. NT, Loyola, 
Evanston, St ignatious, Walter Payton, etc. Sometimes untrained folks are better 
than trained ones, no bad habits to break.
 
Secondly, I beleive the RC should put some hours in 
for frostbite sailing. I always do safety boat or RC in the afternoon after 
sailing Lasers in the AM and have done so for 14 sundays a year 5 races a day 
for over 30 years.
 
Lets not a knee jerk reaction now that we have to 
due our time. It's no suprise, itt's been on the table for at least sixmonths. 
You might even learn something new.
 
thats all, fox jr.
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Don 
>  Maxwell 
>To: alumhousten at iit.edu ; Jack 
>  Bernhardt 
>Cc: etchells-fleet11 at raceonedesign.org 
>Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 15:03
>Subject: Re: [etchells-fleet11] RC 
>  "Volunteers" Issue
>
>
>The past two days I have been on planes, so I'm just catching up on the 
>  conversation.
>
>As many of you may know, much of the problem here came from the 
>  fact that many of the RC personnel are non-CYC members.  Prior to this 
>  spring, a RC volunteer would receive a 'seasonal membership' from the club 
>  after they have served a set number of days.  This incentive was not 
>  popular with the non-racing group (about 75% of the club) and because it 
>  caused a problem with non-member income (another sore subject this year) it 
>  was removed.  Based on the initial response to this change, the committee 
>  felt that they would not be able to maintain enough RC staff in the late 
>  season.  Therefore the burden was shifted to us.
> 
>
>
>Several of us on Membership, RC, and other interested parties pushed back 
>  on the board to reinstate the incentive.  It was done, but the 
>  requirements for the season are already established.
>
>
>From what I've seen, the main problem is getting personnel.  Quality 
>  personnel is not even on the table, just warm bodies.  The current 
>  politics and economics within the club have made buying labor a touchy 
>  subject, and there currently is not enough interest in RC to fill the ranks 
>  with volunteers from the rest of the membership.
>
>
>At this time RC (the committee) or CYC does not have any mechanisms to 
>  generate more interest in volunteering for RC.  For us ID racers, this 
>  problem is central to our enjoyment of the club.  In addition, the rest 
>  of the club view us at best with indifference, and many consider us a waste of 
>  time.   
>
>
>As you all know, clubs are political entities.  We can either 
>  complain louder, or offer some type of solution.
>
>
>We need to politic as a group to make sure that our needs are heard and 
>  met.  The 1D program has national attention and should be considered as 
>  an asset to the image of the club, not a nuisance.  
>
>
>If we can provide a mechanism that increase the number of RC volunteers, 
>  that might go a long way towards getting all our boats on the line each 
>  weekend.
>
>
>If someone has more info on the NUST program, I'll be happy to run it up 
>  the flagpole.
>
>
>_______________________________ 
>Don Maxwell 
>Mobile 708-790-5400 
> 
>Office 312-212-3676
>Fax 708-317-0448
>dleemaxwell at yahoo.com 
>Skype: dleemaxwell
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
 From: "alumhousten at iit.edu" 
>  <alumhousten at iit.edu>
>To: Jack Bernhardt 
>  <jbernhardt at ilchamber.org>
>Cc: >  etchells-fleet11 at raceonedesign.org
>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:27:42 
>  AM
>Subject: Re: 
>  [etchells-fleet11] RC "Volunteers" Issue
>
>+1
>
>
>
>  
> 
>RC Problem 
> 
>	* All, I want to go on record that 
>    I strongly object to the idea of potentially taking four Etchellsoff the starting line on the 
>    25th and thereafter.  Sure, they can race 
> IF they can find a team member to replace whoever fills in on 
>    the RC. Thatwill not be easy as 
>    it is not uncommon to see a few boats looking for crew every week, prior to 
>    the RC “volunteer” program.   > 
>	* I believe the fact that the 
>    RC is "Mac Centric" is the basic cause of the problem.  I assume that 
>    this means that we will potentially lose four boats for every race day 
>    that Etchellsare involved in RC.  
>	* Since we seem to see from 10 
>    to 17 (high) on the line wewill probably see 
>    a dilution of "line boats" by 40% to 22% on any days for which 
> Etchellsracers are scheduled for RC 
>    duty.  
>	* When I first started racing we 
>    were a pure "do it yourself" program - made our own marks, hired and taught 
>    someone how to set a line, do starts, etc. While I do not compare the 2009 
>    program to that era, I find this new program troubling. 
> 
>What can we do 
>  about it?
>	* Ask our fleet Captain, Mike 
>    Frerker, to go back to CYC and, at the lobby to reverse this decision for 
>    2009. 
>	* At the minimum, I think we need 
>    to stand together and refuse to see this program repeated next season. 
>  
>	* CYC can establish ground rules 
>    that link the benefits to RC members to being involved AFTER >    the Mac. Make no doubt about it this is a Mac issue.  Many 
>    – not all – RC volunteers bail out after the Mac.   
>	* As a qualifier I know that a core 
>    group of RC people are committed and are very diligent throughout the entire 
>    season and I hope we all thank them profusely.  This core 
>    group is an important part of our racing program. 
> Let’s see a poll 
>  of the fleet have an informal vote on the RC “Volunteer” program. Like it, 
>  don’t like it?
> 
> 
>Jack Bernhardt
>Vice President Membership & 
>  Marketing
>Illinois Chamber of  
>  Commerce
>300 South Wacker Drive
>Suite 1600
>Chicago, IL  60606
>Direct: 312-983-7112
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>F: 312-386-7812
>E: jbernhardt at ilchamber.org
>www.ilchamber.org
> 
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